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By mid 2006 smoking will BANNED in all indoor venues in Australia.

*dances around* I WILL be throwing a party when that happens.

Why so long to wait I have no idea but better late than never I guess. I just hope I don't get cancer in that year and a half.

Date: 2004-11-29 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jakie-em.livejournal.com
what I like best is the no somking in front of Buildings.

about 3 months ago I went to the PO on adelaide tce near Irwin st (i think) and there are offices upstairs for the PO that arent' related to the PO.

I just happened to be leaving at the time of the smoko break. I was swamped by about 6 people running past me as I exited the PO. they stood out the doors on the path smoking. I had to choke past them. I couldn't understand why these people couldn't walk down the street a bit further to where there was a nice open park....

Date: 2004-11-29 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firvulag.livejournal.com
I wish people, specifically our customers, wouldn't smoke right outside our door. do they really think a wire screen door stops the smoke from going inside? could they really not take 3 steps to infront of the vacant shop?

As for the delay, it's to phase the changes in. The only reason for that is so the pubs and clubs and the guys setting the rules could cooperate. the ama wanted it brought in now. the pubs and clubs realise it's needed but don't want to just drop it in now. i like that the first change is that they remove smokers from a meter from the bar. yeah, like that stops the smoke travelling to behind the bar. the whole point of the changes is to protect the staff, as well as the non smoking customers, but primarialy the staff, which is good but it's a pity the ama bow so much to pressure from other things, as i'd love to see them stand behind a decision and force the govt to actually make the hard decisions.

Having said that, WA will be the second state (behind Tasmania) to have no smoking indoors when it finally comes in, while the others are phasing it in slower.

Date: 2004-11-29 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airinkitty.livejournal.com
yay!! i'm such a "smaking is bad" kinda person so this makes me really happy. i hope smoking just gets banned period eventually...

Date: 2004-11-29 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airinkitty.livejournal.com
*smoking is bad"

-.-;

Date: 2004-11-29 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lush-1984.livejournal.com
I was sitting on a bench outside Garden city yesterday and two people came and sat down next to me chugging on ciggys, my brother also smokes like a chimney outside my room. I felt like saying to them all "I didn't say you could kill me slowly did I?!!" its so rude to presume that I actually enjoy sucking in someone elses smoke and why should it be me that has to move too?? I was sitting there first, enjoying the fresh air!

Date: 2004-11-29 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunnyshagg.livejournal.com
We have that in my city :) No smoking hardly anywhere. It is sooo nice to sit at a mall or food place and not smell it ;)

Date: 2004-11-29 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemfyre.livejournal.com
It's been banned in shopping centres and restaurants for ages.

This is going for pubs and clubs and places like that.

Finally I'll be able to go to karaoke and not have trouble breathing or arrive home reeking of smoke.

Date: 2004-11-29 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dead-corvette.livejournal.com
i cant wait eh!
no more coming home from the pub smelling like smoke!

luckily the club i frequent on a regular basis makes people smoke outside :D

Date: 2004-11-29 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dead-corvette.livejournal.com
i said something like that to 2 people who sat next to me in the city & started smoking. i was trying to eat & i just got so damn angry.
My boyfriend got really embarrassed & probably a little pissed off. but im so sick of people being inconsiderate!

Date: 2004-11-29 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sio.livejournal.com
rock! i'm so hoping for the days of Trek where no one does it anymore. i always think of a first season line by Tom Paris from the ep Ex Post Facto:

"Smoking is a bad habit. My species gave it up centuries ago....when we got it into our heads that it was killing us."

rude smokers

Date: 2004-11-29 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firvulag.livejournal.com
this week at karaoke we had a smoker light up his smoke and then just leave it on the edge of our table (not the one he had been sitting at) while he went up to sing. we endured his singing and his cigarette and when they finished he and he didn't head to collect it i had a "polite" word to his mate telling him not to forget his cig and to kindly leave it elsewhere in future. he kept going for a bit and then went back and collected it. but it was quite rude to leave it there in the first place since noone at our table of 3 smokes and there wasn't a ashtray there or anything.

Date: 2004-11-29 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emu-bitter-babe.livejournal.com
So, will there be a designated smoking area at your party in 2006?? Cos otherwise it's HIGHLY INCONSIDERATE TO SMOKERS!

< grin duck run >

Date: 2004-11-29 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemfyre.livejournal.com
Pfff!

They can go outside. *pokes out tongue*

Me not smoking doesn't give others cancer.

Anyway, you'll have quit by then anyway. ;)

*guards packet of Minties*

Date: 2004-11-29 09:51 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] purrdence.livejournal.com
now if they could only stop people smoking here...

even with the so called power 'smoke sucker upper' machines they have, the smell stills gets out..

Nerr, nerr

Date: 2004-11-29 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emu-bitter-babe.livejournal.com
Yeah well... well... mebbe I'll quit and then mebbe by then they'll have invented a perfect not-bad-for-you cigarette!!!

HA!

Then I would win.

In the meantime, yes, I quit. I quit, whilst railing against the unfairness of it all.

Also in defence of some smokers, who aren't necessarily ALL horrible evil people with no consideration for non-smokers... I have never, ever lit up at a table/chair/whatever that I've sat down at unless I see everybody at that table smoking. Or I ask them first. If someone sits down next to me, however, and I'm smoking, they're accepting their passive habit so far as I'm concerned.

Interesting other smoking fact about MOI, since it's ALL ABOUT MOI - I went to Missy Higgins last weekend at the Fly By Nightclub and filled out one of their questionnaires about their "no smoking" policy. I thoroughly enjoyed screwing with their statistics by saying "yes I smoke and yes I would be more inclined to go to a venue that's non-smoking to watch a live band" ;) Hypocritical, but true.

*bows*

I now return your Gemfyre limelight to the rest of the people who'd like to get a post in edgewise.

Re: Nerr, nerr

Date: 2004-11-29 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azhure.livejournal.com
Just sticking my nose in here. As a non-smoker who actually doesn't mind the smell of smoke (I'm weird, I know), Joey here is one of the most considerate smokers I have ever known.

Though I should say ex-smoker. One hour ;)

Re: Nerr, nerr

Date: 2004-11-29 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemfyre.livejournal.com
Yeah it kinda shits me that so many mates of my mine light up at venues where smoking is allowed. But I guess while it's legal and I'm getting exposure from people I don't know I can't really say anything.

I do know plenty of polite smokers however. It always seems to be the assholes who troll my anti-smoking community (well I guess, a polite smoker WOULDN'T troll such a community would they?)

Re: Nerr, nerr

Date: 2004-11-29 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emu-bitter-babe.livejournal.com
Don't take this the wrong way... but that was my point with the Fly By Nightclub. I'd support a non-smoking venue because I think it's a good thing for everybody.

In the meantime, if you choose to go to a smoking venue and you're a non-smoker... well... I don't think you can pout and cry about catching cancer if you're gonna hang out in a smoky pub once a week. If you're that worried about getting cancer in the next 1.5 years, then you'd stay away from venues of high exposure like that. Sorry, harsh, but true. Nobody's twisting your arm to go to closed-in smoking spaces like that.

Re: Nerr, nerr

Date: 2004-11-29 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemfyre.livejournal.com
I adore everything about karaoke at KK's except the smoke.

So I will continue to go, but I do 99% of my bitching in the appropriate communities. ;)

Re: Nerr, nerr

Date: 2004-11-29 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emu-bitter-babe.livejournal.com
See, to me that either makes no sense if you're that worried about it, or makes you seem melodramatic about your "cancer risk" posts.

Re: Nerr, nerr

Date: 2004-11-29 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemfyre.livejournal.com
I just feel that I (or anybody) shouldn't HAVE to risk their health in such a way by going somewhere they enjoy - why should non-smokers miss out on what they love because there are people who smoke?

Ah well, counting down to mid-2006.

Re: Nerr, nerr

Date: 2004-11-29 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emu-bitter-babe.livejournal.com
That's absolutely fine and valid. But don't post that you're worried about catching cancer, then regularly trot off to a smoking venue voluntarily anyway. Show some spine! Stop going and they'll stop the smoking.

Date: 2004-11-30 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lush-1984.livejournal.com
Re:Firvulag

yeah that happened to me too before, so i picked up the still burning ciggarette and threw it in his drink, then went to wash my hands...

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