Anti_smoking becomes Smoking_debate
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gemfyreMaybe I should have made ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
anti_smoking a debate community instead, but then I couldn't add my little bitchings into it.
I LIKE the debate, like in Abortiondebate, it's interesting to see both sides. I've not yet heard anything in either community to sway me from my beliefs however.
My post from today.
Imagine there's a room with a freestanding wall in the middle of it. You're on one side of the wall. On the other side is...
- Somebody shooting up heroin. You can't see it. If you didn't know they were there you could completely ignore it.
- Somebody getting drunk. You can't see it. If you didn't know they were there you could completely ignore it.
- Somebody getting an abortion. (ooh that one's opening a can of worms!) You can't see it. If you didn't know they were there you could completely ignore it.
Okay, so the wall may not be soundproof. But just hearing something isn't going to physically affect you.
Now let's put someone else behind the wall.
- Somebody smoking. This wall is freestanding. That smoke is creeping around the edges and invading your space. You can't help but breathe it in and smell it.
THIS is where my main problem with smoking comes in. I wouldn't have such a huge issue with it if it didn't result in an all permeating toxic haze that I have no choice of whether I breathe it or not. If cigarettes/pipes/cigars/hookahs/whathaveyou didn't emit clouds of smoke this community wouldn't even exist. Sure I don't like excessive drinking or heroin addiction (okay, so I am pro-choice) but I don't feel personally violated by it almost everywhere I go.
YES! Vehicles DO emit a stack of nasty fumes too. YES! We do need to do something about it (and I do my best to reduce my own greenhouse gas outputs, fossil fuel usage and water usage). That doesn't mean smoking is automatically OK. Two wrongs here. I understand that for some people with respiratory problems even this affects them - more reason to minimise. But for me personally - I don't find the smell of exhaust fumes clings to my clothes and hair. It doesn't make me cough unless I'm directly behind a badly maintained car belching fumes.
Perfume also affects some people with respiratory problems. That still doesn't make smoking okay. Two wrongs don't make a right. I think the use of perfume/scented products is an outcome of society and it's obsession with cleanliness. But that's another issue. Unless it's in excess perfume and scented products don't really bother me. If I move a few metres away I can't smell it anymore, unlike with smoke.
I heard that someone DID invent smokeless cigarettes. But nobody uses them. WHY? WHY do smokers have this obsession with the damn SMOKE which is the reason anti-smokers detest smoking? Why aren't we working to make EVERYONE happy? I don't get it.
anti_smoking a debate community instead, but then I couldn't add my little bitchings into it.I LIKE the debate, like in Abortiondebate, it's interesting to see both sides. I've not yet heard anything in either community to sway me from my beliefs however.
My post from today.
Imagine there's a room with a freestanding wall in the middle of it. You're on one side of the wall. On the other side is...
- Somebody shooting up heroin. You can't see it. If you didn't know they were there you could completely ignore it.
- Somebody getting drunk. You can't see it. If you didn't know they were there you could completely ignore it.
- Somebody getting an abortion. (ooh that one's opening a can of worms!) You can't see it. If you didn't know they were there you could completely ignore it.
Okay, so the wall may not be soundproof. But just hearing something isn't going to physically affect you.
Now let's put someone else behind the wall.
- Somebody smoking. This wall is freestanding. That smoke is creeping around the edges and invading your space. You can't help but breathe it in and smell it.
THIS is where my main problem with smoking comes in. I wouldn't have such a huge issue with it if it didn't result in an all permeating toxic haze that I have no choice of whether I breathe it or not. If cigarettes/pipes/cigars/hookahs/whathave
YES! Vehicles DO emit a stack of nasty fumes too. YES! We do need to do something about it (and I do my best to reduce my own greenhouse gas outputs, fossil fuel usage and water usage). That doesn't mean smoking is automatically OK. Two wrongs here. I understand that for some people with respiratory problems even this affects them - more reason to minimise. But for me personally - I don't find the smell of exhaust fumes clings to my clothes and hair. It doesn't make me cough unless I'm directly behind a badly maintained car belching fumes.
Perfume also affects some people with respiratory problems. That still doesn't make smoking okay. Two wrongs don't make a right. I think the use of perfume/scented products is an outcome of society and it's obsession with cleanliness. But that's another issue. Unless it's in excess perfume and scented products don't really bother me. If I move a few metres away I can't smell it anymore, unlike with smoke.
I heard that someone DID invent smokeless cigarettes. But nobody uses them. WHY? WHY do smokers have this obsession with the damn SMOKE which is the reason anti-smokers detest smoking? Why aren't we working to make EVERYONE happy? I don't get it.
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Date: 2007-05-03 09:01 am (UTC)I firmly believe that the malls in perth, the streets between the malls (barrack and william) and all bus stops in this city should be made smoke free. again it is mainly kids that use them and they are already crowded. it is hard enough to avoid their vile poison and worse when you have nowhere else to go
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Date: 2007-05-03 09:22 am (UTC)[related tangent] The people living upstairs were smoking a while back (we live in a basement suite) and it was coming in through the vents or something and was making my roommate and I sick. We wrote them a polite letter asking them to please smoke outside and they didn't listen. We finally complained to the landladies, who were quite upset since apparently they had asked them not to smoke in the house at last once already.[/tangent]
I could care less what the people upstairs do, but the smoking was seriously affecting our health since we spend a lot of time breathing in the air in this house...