Slashity

Jun. 26th, 2005 09:59 pm
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Forgive me Lord for I have fallen. Into the world of fandom, fanfiction and sometimes even slashfic. Now, slash intruges me. It seems to be a rather recent phenomenon squeed over by many females but frowned upon by guys. I think it's kinda similar to guys fantasising about girl on girl action, but now it's become acceptible for us females to express similar sentiments and put our favourite male characters into such roles. Personally I find the large majority of slash is just wrong, the large majority of fanfic in general sucks. But I recently read one slashfic that was an absolutely amazing story as well as being titilating. So much so that I gratioutiously wrote and extra chapter for it last night (which I may or may not let interested people read).

EDIT: [livejournal.com profile] kittikattie made a good point, which would be one of the key reasons most slash just wants me to dig my eyes out with a spoon and throttle the sicko that wrote it. My reply re: Eyes of the Jackal which had me in tears at the end. The only slash I've read/enjoyed was a Phantom of the Opera based slash involving Erik and Raoul - Christine decides to be free and lets Erik kill Raoul, only Erik doesn't kill him, and Raoul soon develops a case of Stockholm syndrome. It works because it develops the characters to act like that, not because they're gay but because of their loneliness and desperation.

And cuz I now have a paid account and can do it, tell me what you think.
[Poll #520482]

Date: 2005-06-26 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miwasatoshi.livejournal.com
Nothing wrong with slash, as long as it's coherent and well-written and not just for the purpose of putting two random guys together for casual buttsex.

Date: 2005-06-26 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miwasatoshi.livejournal.com
Also, RPS (Real Person Slash) regardless of gender is SEVERELY unkosher.

Date: 2005-06-26 06:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2005-06-26 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittikattie.livejournal.com
I voted for "I don't get slash"--but it's not because it's disgusting. It's more that I get annoyed at slashing being done with disregard to actual sexuality patterns or characterization, and that I seem to run into girls who seem to think that slash is sooo wonderful, but will actually act like they've been poisoned in the eyes when they read anything het.

Date: 2005-06-26 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemfyre.livejournal.com
I can see where you're coming from.

The only slash I've read/enjoyed was a Phantom of the Opera based slash involving Erik and Raoul - Christine decides to be free and lets Erik kill Raoul, only Erik doesn't kill him, and Raoul soon develops a case of Stockholm syndrome. It works because it develops the characters to act like that, not because they're gay but because of their loneliness and desperation.

Date: 2005-06-26 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittikattie.livejournal.com
That makes sense to me. Stuff like, "After five years of hating each other, Draco and Ron Weasley get it on, because I think they are hawt" makes me sick. So does all "women suck and I don't want them competing with me, so I'll pair all the men together."

Date: 2005-06-26 02:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] purrdence.livejournal.com
you would have liked the manga fair. I went to today - it was all fan manga, using preexisting characters. Most of it was m/m slash, and I think I counted the amount of men the the football oval sized hall on both hands, and two of them were the friends I went with.

Date: 2005-06-26 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bloophoenix.livejournal.com
I'm very much female and I enjoy some slash. However, I prefer it when the pairings make sense and the story is more than "Two hawt guys meet and have a beer. THEN THEY HAVE TEH_BUTTSECKS!!!1".

Date: 2005-06-26 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reaperfox.livejournal.com
"And then I looked at you and realised I WAS GAY OMG!!1!!!one"

(and right away, they know exactly what to do, how to do it, and how to make it last all night).

Date: 2005-06-26 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyctanessa.livejournal.com
SUBTEXT = BUTTSEX

:D

Date: 2005-06-26 02:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
I like some slash. More so lately since I started playing sims a lot... I have gay couples there that are so sweet together. Actually, don't get me started.

I read more het than slash, but *good* slashfic is enjoyable. The problem is that most of it is crap, and some of that crap involves mpreg... *shudders*

Date: 2005-06-26 02:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lotus79.livejournal.com
Also, I dunno about recent... It goes at least as far back as Star Trek TOS--Kirk/Spock slash is often touted as the dawn of fanfiction.

Date: 2005-06-26 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] contrilver.livejournal.com
There's no indifferent option!

Date: 2005-06-26 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-laura.livejournal.com
I don't fall into the above categories. ^_^ I'm female and I don't have any moral/disgust problems with slashfic; I just think it's boring as hell. I don't begrudge others their slash, though. ^_^

Date: 2005-06-26 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reaperfox.livejournal.com
*sniffles* "boring as hell"

*cries*

:)

Date: 2005-06-27 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-laura.livejournal.com
LOL, sorry! I just can't bring myself to sit down and read about fictional characters having sex. ^_^

Date: 2005-06-27 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemfyre.livejournal.com
yeah yeah just rub it in. :p

Date: 2005-06-26 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aequanoctis.livejournal.com
mmmmmhhhhh YES I looove slash!

Date: 2005-06-26 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jayed.livejournal.com
I am like Laura. I'm a woman, I don't think there is anything wrong with it, but I feel that its the "in thing" to be into at the moment.

I feel that sometimes it degrades the characters to nothing more than dildo's though...

I also don't get it, I don't get the attraction of two men getting it on. Yes, well written Slash is enjoyable to read, but it would be enjoyable if it were two women.

In short, I am indifferent.

hrm...

Date: 2005-06-27 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firvulag.livejournal.com
That's a decent point.
I don't get it, but i enjoy reading. If it's well written, and fits the characters that are there, then I guess there isn't much problem with it. And as you say, it'd work just as well if it was women. Half the time the normal relationship stuff in novels are just rubbish anyway.

This poll could have done with more/better options, as it really didn't have the choice I needed which was just "I don't get it". I'm not sure if it would disgust me or not.

Re: hrm...

Date: 2005-06-30 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemfyre.livejournal.com
Yeah, I shoulda had an option like that.

Thinking. Eyes of the Jackal is not brilliant due to slashness. It is brilliant due to character development and it being a great psychological drama type story.

Date: 2005-06-26 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyguinevere83.livejournal.com
I'm starting to love slash (though a lot is really poorly written), but I very much enjoy my het as well - I'm not too picky! :-)

Date: 2005-06-26 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reaperfox.livejournal.com
Do you REALLY have to ask? :) *cuddles the boys in her icon*

I'm in one of those fandoms that was doing slash WAY BEFORE it became "tendy" and, as Lynx says, the "In thing". Hell, Starsky & Hutch are predated ONLY by the ORIGINAL pairing, Kirk/Spock.

I don't like this new (Harry Potter borne, it seems) obsession with slashing every pairing EVER. I think it has to work in cannon JUST a little. Starsky/Hutch works. Kirk/Spock works. Snape/Harry, what? Since when? There HAS to be a LITTLE, teeny tiny bit of sense for me to totally get it.

Date: 2005-06-26 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reaperfox.livejournal.com
As for bad writing...

I read a S/H zine (proper "published" stuff) that was produced in 2002, I believe, that absolutely knocked the socks off ANYTHING I'd read recently, and considering I read a LOT, that said something. Mind you, the author is a professional writer herself, so I guess that explains it.

Still, it's one of my favourite novels, EVER, and it's fanfic 0_o crayzee.

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