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No animal sees humans as prey.  Humans are a threat often, and are duly attacked, or the animal mistakes them for something that IS food (ala the surfer looking like a seal).  But animals don't go out of their way to eat humans.

Here's a lovely tale of a guy who goes out to hunt elk (apparently in the U.S. wilderness areas are places where you can go out and shoot things to feel macho).  Bears are attracted to the remains of hunts.  A mother bear and cub came across him.  Of course the mother bear attacks.

First he runs - so of course the bear gives chase.  Then he fights, proving to the bear that he IS a threat.  Bear takes a few good chunks out of him then runs off.  He grabs his gun and shoots charging bear.  Leaving a cub orphaned (the show fails to mention this).  If he had just dropped and stayed still the bear would probably have left him, but no.

Grrr.

Date: 2004-09-05 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stawberi.livejournal.com
Only one animal sees humans as prey. Humans.

That show sounds ridiculous. I really feel bad/angry about the cub...

Date: 2004-09-05 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lavender-lace.livejournal.com
Stuff like that makes me so angry! I can fully understand hunting if you actually need to for food, but hunting for sport is just stupid. IMO, it's just an excuse to run around and be a neanderthal.

Date: 2004-09-05 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daynavon.livejournal.com
That guy's a moron, apparently. =/

Date: 2004-09-05 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jigglyqueen.livejournal.com
if animals saw humans as prey then we wouldn't have taken over the world so to speak. Or at least that's what I think anyway. There are bigger and stronger animals than humans so if some hunted us for food we wouldn't have been able to develop like this in the first place.

Date: 2004-09-05 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morninglord.livejournal.com
I'm curious on your view of hunting in order to protect property. For example on a farm you need to shoot emus and kangaroos because they destroy thousands of dollars of grain and barley a year, destroy fences (sometimes allowing your sheep to get out into the wheat fields, yay *more* damage) and electric fences do not stop them really. Plus electric fences are very hard to keep maintained.
Farmers who do not hunt these pests regularly can and have gone bankrupt.

Date: 2004-09-05 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morninglord.livejournal.com
Sorry, I should say, they destroy thousands of dollars even when you'r actively keeping them off your property. Unchecked, they can cost you tens of thousands.

Date: 2004-09-05 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morninglord.livejournal.com
Yeah, that sounds about right for a commercial television program. "Cash in on human stupidity"
Woohoo.

Date: 2004-09-06 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firvulag.livejournal.com
if animals saw humans as prey, would we have gotten through the early years when the animals far outnumbered the humans? we'd more than likely have been just another species that was wiped out, rather than the one that continually changes the way the planet runs

Date: 2004-09-06 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisdarby.livejournal.com
Hunting doesn't prove anything... all it proves is that you can sit still... be quiet... and fire a small metal object into something that is probrably standing still...

What's macho about that... its fucked!! it's not brave... its not skillful... its barbaric... if you ask me!

Date: 2004-09-06 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleedingwillow.livejournal.com
"(apparently in the U.S. wilderness areas are places where you can go out and shoot things to feel macho)."

Erm...I've gone hunting every year with my dad since I was 5...up until I was about 13(I've never shot anything). I don't do it to feel macho.

But yes, there are places like that all over the US. It's seasonal and for the most part (at least with deer/moose/elk) it's only males you're allowed to shoot. You have to pay a fortune to shoot a female...and you get fined out the ass if you shoot something you don't have a permit for (even if it's an accident).

Date: 2004-09-07 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shrika.livejournal.com
That is not hunting. That is pest control! And you have to have a special permit for that. Plus all farmers I know don't exactly take joy in it.

Date: 2004-09-07 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shrika.livejournal.com
Reply on behalf of Dazz

Humans were prey! It was a situation of evolotion; get smart and learn how to avoid the hunter or get eaten.

Date: 2004-09-07 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shrika.livejournal.com
What happens to the animals that get killed?

Date: 2004-09-07 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shrika.livejournal.com
Most part guns are used but not always.

Does seem a little one sided. I mean it's amazing how a weapon can transform humans to idiots.

Date: 2004-09-07 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleedingwillow.livejournal.com
Depends.

The antlers are usually kept as trophies. Sometimes the whole head is preserved and mounted (my uncle's basement is full of animal parts).

The meat is usually prepared and eaten or preserved to be eaten later.

The parts that "go to waste" are the bones, hooves, and organs.

One average size deer provides a rather substantial amount of meat.

Date: 2004-09-08 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shrika.livejournal.com
I don't think it's the worlds greatest sport but then I could see this in comparasen (sp?) of people taking drugs. It's going to happen. In the case of drug uses, we provide clean needles, to at least make it as safe as we can for them. In shooting Animals, we obviously provide places where you can go and there is little waste. I don't have to like the notion of either but I can live with this knowing that there is little waste.
Thanks for that info bleedingwillow.

However I can't help of thinking of that diflam ad with their deer head on the wall and the phrase "my legs, my legs, I can't feel my legs"

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